We are getting pretty deep into a debate here and I would like to point out that it is civil and constructive. I like this type of discussion because a deeper understanding of each other is the way to fix the problems we face.

I also want to point out that I started in this discussion with the statement that business should stay out of these debates because it is a no win situation. I still stand by that and use this thread and the heated and adversarial stances taken by both sides to make my case. Not by all the posters, but some. My fear is that these "heated discussions" take place among our customers at FL330 and we and our cabin staff have to become media fodder. I certainly understand the pins and their importance to BLM supporters.