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Old 09-12-2020 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mattc
As someone in this boat (2000 UAL hire, twice furloughed, upgraded to guppy CA in Mar of 2019)....
Just curious how you fared during the merger being out on furlough? Do you think you would have done better on the property, even at a lower MPG with 10 years of longevity instead of the 3-4 you probably had? I bet if you were 2,000 numbers more senior, you’d have a lot more choices than you do now.

I believe that this environment will trigger more consolidation and the only airlines we are likely to acquire are JB, AS, F9, or Spirit. If so, those airlines are unlikely to have large numbers of pilots on furlough, if any. The short term pain would be nothing compared to finding out that you are being merged in with a 2015 JB/AS/F9/Spirit hire because our 3,000 furloughs are being jammed in at the bottom. Most of those airlines have a MUCH younger pilot group. I personally, don’t want to end up in a merger where the pilot right ahead of me was hired years after me at another airline, and is 7 years younger than me, and then multiply that by 1,500 or more pilots.

I’d also like to be at an airline that if things change quickly, we can respond quickly, or we can let the other airlines just take that market share permanently possibly. Southwest has come out publicly saying they want to do just this.

I’m not saying I’m voting yes, because I haven’t seen it. But I don’t believe this is a B scale TA because air travel is about 1/3 of what it was 8 month ago, in case you didn’t know. We have less flying and we need to understand that. I respect your wanting to defend the contract, but its the ability to adapt that is going to be required to still be working at the same airline in 5 years.

We have two choices...maintain the status quo, which was a contract not designed for a worldwide travel stopping pandemic, or negotiate some things that benefit us in the long-term. I am willing to see what the details are, and if we all vote no, that’s fine, but we have to understand that it may give us a few more dollars now, but a few years from now it may cost us a lot more.
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