Originally Posted by
Knotcher
WE are not cutting anybody loose...the company is. Understand that.
I get why this philosophy is worth considering… Obviously we don’t want to move forward thinking that any bad thing that happens to us is the fault of the union. That said, the company is offering to spread the remaining flying, unevenly and favoring seniority, throughout the entire Pilot group, rather than giving it all to the top half or 2/3rds (depending on demand and future furloughs) of our group. So if we vote no, we are voting that we would rather furlough, than share the pain. I don’t think that is wrong inherently, but I do think that we should be honest about the fact that the choice is in our hands. If you want to play the “we don’t do _____ , someone else does it”… Then the company doesn’t furlough pilots, economic recessions do, right? The company is responsible for deciding how to staff an airline given suppressed demand. In this situation, they have passed that decision making onto us. Really tough and unprecedented choice, I fully get it. But instead of shying away from the choice that we have, we need to own it. How would you feel if Scott Kirby said, “ I didnt furlough you, Covid did?“
Originally Posted by
Knotcher
Representation does not entail carve outs and windfalls. A guy with a furlough letter in hand can keep the job AND keep his captain pay making the same as a middle guy while working less. That is not right and you know it.
to me the union is more than simple representation. However, I think that is an idealogical position, and I respect that other people see the union having a smaller role of collective-bargaining and subsequent contract enforcement. I like the idea of more leadership and career stewardship. That is just my opinion
although I do not have a furlough letter, I am a captain in the bottom third. As long as we are in super suppressed demand, I will be making a good bit less as a halftime captain, than I would as a full-time FO. I am fortunate that a furlough would not affect me anywhere near as bad as others, but as I have stated, I spent my last year flying with new hires. There are so many examples of great people who have done everything right (Put money in savings for unforeseen events, chosen to live Near a support network, etc.) and yet will still face incredible hardship if they get furloughed.
I definitely understand that some people are luckier than others with his agreement, but I think you could find those individuals in every tier . My displaced widebody captain bud who already has a good retirement fund, who faced 18 days a month of the narrowbody grind, now gets to stay on his jet and work even less than before.. let me tell you, he would be STOKED. The important thing I think, is to look at this TA as a whole and see if it attempted to favor seniority, and I largely believe it did. It is far from perfect, but don’t let perfect be the enemy of the good. The windfalls you speak of, are an incredibly small percentage of our pilots. The obvious beneficiaries are potential furloughs, that is certain. That said, I personally believe that if we zoom out and look at the health of our airline five years from now, rather than each of our take-home pay next April, I think this is our best bet. time will tell