The company wanted to target the ALV cuts, i.e. not cut everyone’s ALV the same amount. They wanted to slash WB ALVs while in the same bid period max out NB ALVs. This is a lose/lose. WB pilots would receive less pay for the same QOL, and NB pilots would receive the same pay for a lower QOL. Every time you make the ALV cut argument as a QOL win, you ignore that the company was unwilling to impose a list-wide ALV cut with a corresponding reduction in on-call obligations for reserves.