Originally Posted by
Scoop
I agree 100% it is an honorable solution. It was honorable to take a voluntary 32% pay cut to avoid BK. How did that work out? Pilot don't trust management. This is learned behavior. We lived it.
The problem isn't unethical Pilots the problem is unethical management. No Pilot in their right mind who has been through this before and burned wants to be burned again.
Like I have said before and will repeat ad nauseam - If we had a Herb Kelleher type CEO, I would be all over it.
Scoop
Fair enough. Those events destroyed lives and families. With the gravity of losses and continued reduced demand, there is no guarantee they won’t furlough, ask for more concessions, or use bankruptcy down the road. I would be surprised to see a LONGER TERM (longer than 6 months or so maybe?) no-furlough agreement. It would disappoint me if they offer it because it would be an obvious lie to think they know at this stage that they can keep that promise. Bankruptcy is definitely a possibility without a meaningful rebound as well.
I still think an ALV cut is a very different staffing solution than a rate cut (especially 32%). I also believe SILs are harmful to jobs vs. an ALV cut.
But I wasn’t here for the bankruptcy and I would probably think differently if I was, especially with the same executive on the team. Was there anything like an ALV cut offered then?