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Old 09-18-2020 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I am not sure why people keep saying they want to slash widebody ALV’s. With the elimination of the 777 category and the VEOP retirements they are short and have a lot of training to do for both the A350 and A330 on the Captains side. The A350 next summer will fully utilize every airframe. The 330 is projected for high utilization. ALV’s will be high for both. The manning on the widebodies is solved, the only problem is getting more widebody pilots trained.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
I have never posted widebodies would get a higher ALV in exchange for anything. I pointed out that widebody staffing is actually low compared to other fleets and the statements that the company is asking for a targeted ALV for widebodies only is incorrect. If the company got a ALV they can target the lowest ALV’s on average it would be the narrow bodies. The 777 shutdown and the VEOP radically changed where the biggest pilot surpluses are now found. The bid just closed backs that up and might even have been the biggest widebody award in company history. Certainly the largest that was not a 1 year bid.
Correct, you did not say widebodies would get a higher ALV in any deal BUT you implied that WB’s would have a higher ALV because of the VEOP (and 777 closing) and that WB categories would not see an ALV reduction in a targeted plan. I dispute this implication. I think WB’s will definitely see a LOWER ALV over the next 6 months plus. This is the third time I have posted this and yet have not received a comment about it from you. What do you think?

Of course ALV’s will be higher in the summer. Pretty much all category ALV’s will be higher in the summer. That doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out. What about the rest of the year? A targeted ALV gives the company to much leeway and picks winners and losers. IMO if a reduced ALV is negotiated it should apply to all categories equally.

I’m curious how long do you think the company is looking for a reduced/targeted ALV deal?

Denny

Edit: Also I do NOT think the 330 is undermanned for the fall/winter of this year with COVID going on. A lot of pilots were reinstated to the 330 on this last bid and never left the category. The company has quite a while to train new people for next summer. The A350 might be a different story.

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