Originally Posted by
Scoop
First off I think its a very small but very, very vocal minority that feels this way. The vast majority want no concessions. No deals period - only a few outliers. Secondly there is not a single reason but multiple reasons - some more valid then others. I will list a few. I am not advocating , agreeing with, disagreeing with or endorsing any of these reasons just listing the issues that I have seen come up on various Social Media platforms.
We had 2 rounds of furloughs previously in which furloughees had zero time to prepare and some of these guys are now in their final years and this is their time to make money.
Very recently many Pilots including potential furloughees did not seem to care too much about helping out soon to be retirees.
Many Pilots are concerned about the waterfall affects of voluntary measures. Even though its voluntary secondary and tertiary affects it will impact Pilots who don't take it.
Some feel management will eventually do what they want anyway and some of these deals are just setting the domino's in place to eventually fall the way they want.
With all of this said if the MEC overwhelmingly agrees with the voluntary measures I don't believe that they will be subject to MEMRAT. If voluntary measures only have lukewarm support it would go to MEMRAT. But, and this is the important part - why would anyone be against voluntary measures that benefits the Pilot group? IMHO this is why voluntary measures will almost always overwhelmingly be endorsed by the MEC which then leads to the thinking that MEMRAT is not required.
Scoop
I think United's deal has out a lot of us on edge. Most of us were easily crediting 90 hours per month on average by doing a GS every other month. The loss of profit sharing, green slips, displacements, etc. have knocked all of our salaries down. Most of us are still doing pretty good because our budgets are based on 75 hours. If United's deal comes here, the senior guys are looking at a 24 percent pay cut from what there budget is based on. Middle third would be looking at 30 percent, and bottom guys 50 percent. When you look at numbers that staggering, it's hard to cheer for a deal.
I don't think anyone wants to see furloughs, but the price to avoid them is too high based on United's deal.