Originally Posted by
Buck Rogers
Is it possible you are mistaken re the "universally"? When I see the vote at UAL I will have more data instead of an emotional argument. If they turn down their LOA 90-10, I will admit that you handicapped the will of the Delta pilot group successfully. If their LOA passes then let's revisit this and what "universally" means. Deal?
Are you seriously suggesting we gauge the will of the Delta pilots' by how UAL pilots vote on an agreement not negotiated by us, and that has nothing to do with us? Am I understanding you right? Uhhh, no. And I said almost, btw...
Originally Posted by
Gone Flying
when did APLA and Delta exchange openers? How soon after that did COVID happen? Our contract became amendable on 1/1/2020 and by the end of February the economy was in free fall. Not gonna fault the company on that one. Had it been 1,2, or 3 years that might have merit but the contract had just become amendable when all this started.
Not to mention our opening proposal was a huge dollar amount, it was going to take some time to negotiate an agreement based on what ALPA has put out from our opener
Openers were exchanged April 5, 2019. Almost a YEAR before the bottom dropped out. Throwing out the 1 January amendable date, and juxtaposing that with the start of COVID is disingenuous. Not to mention putting the blame on ALPA for painfully slow negotiations. We may well have made a large ask, while the company was printing BILLIONS a year, but the company was not talking negotiations seriously.