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Old 09-23-2020 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Are you seriously suggesting we gauge the will of the Delta pilots' by how UAL pilots vote on an agreement not negotiated by us, and that has nothing to do with us? Am I understanding you right? Uhhh, no. And I said almost, btw...



Openers were exchanged April 5, 2019. Almost a YEAR before the bottom dropped out. Throwing out the 1 January amendable date, and juxtaposing that with the start of COVID is disingenuous. Not to mention putting the blame on ALPA for painfully slow negotiations. We may well have made a large ask, while the company was printing BILLIONS a year, but the company was not talking negotiations seriously.

I should have worded my question differently, I was seriously asking when openers were exchanges as I was hired after it happened. I thought it was November ish, I’ll happily admit I was wrong. I don’t necessarily blame Alpa for the pace of negotiations, I just saw their proposal as very high and not conducive to an on time TA. I do think overall APLA has been more reasonable than DL, at least in my time here. I just don’t think holding our lack of a contract as a reason to not negotiate at all is realistic.

In the past 10 years I think I can count on 1 hand how many RLA pilot contracts have been delivered on time
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