Originally Posted by
connollc
I wasn't here when it happened, but in a past downturn did not the pilots give 30+% in pay cuts only to have the company file BK anyway and take more? What would you say about that in the context of “holding strong?”
What you’re saying is technically true, but let’s keep it in perspective. OTH is there value (morally or otherwise) in negotiating something that could mitigate furloughs. That is what we as a group will need to answer.
EDIT: the BK judge “took more”
United went into BK without any cuts, both airlines had similar contracts in 2002 timeframe UAL did not cut to avoid BK, DL did. United came out with slightly lower rates than DL. I’m not saying we should not defend our contract, we absolutely should. I’m just saying the idea if we just “say no” to management everything will be great when we return ignores what can happen in BK.
airlinefiles.com has historical pay rates for all the legacies. for those who were not here (like me) it is truly enlightening how far we fell and how far we have come since the mid 2000s. Eg in 2006 12 year 757/767 CA pay was $155/hour at DL and $152/hour at UAL