I do not mind the ALV reduction, because like you I believe that it is totally 100% self correcting with zero effort on our part. I actually like the idea of working less vice working for less. I like a 90+ hour month as much as the next guy but I feel sorry for the guys that need 90+ hours each and every month.

I have always said my issue is that I do not trust our management team. That is the show stopper in my mind and I don't see a good way around it. Our management team has slowly and inexorably over the years eroded trust with the Pilot group. In my mind it is something they have accepted as a price to help prevent the non-contract employees from organizing but either way they have done nothing to make me feel otherwise.

The just say No crowd at DALPA have contributed somewhat to our current situation, but to me that is mainly a byproduct and enabled by managements behavior. There are win-wins out there, but it would take a huge leap of faith on the part of the Pilot group to achieve them and that faith is currently non-existent.

Scoop