I think that permanent concessions are off the table, I can't imagine anyone voting for that. Reducing guarantee with a set snap back date is probably what they'll ask for. I personally don't like that idea at all. What will they ask for? 80? 75? 70? How is it fair compared to those on ExTO sitting at home for 55? In this case I wanna rebid for ExTO! The other option is a rate reduction or some kind of benefit reduction (401k contribution reduce from 15% to whatever they agree to). Obviously all with automatic snap back date. We'll see what they come up with, time will tell. Agree that allowing us to grow beards would be awesome. Wonder how many Santas would be walking around the airports in pilot uniforms. I know I would.