Originally Posted by
captive apple
Thanks the original question was if J4J is gone and it sounds like it is and replaced with a new agreement.
When things get better we will need our own orange lanyards. No de facto flow down without progression for all!!
Jets for jobs is dead and long gone. There is no flow down, just a requirement to offer new hire positions only if there is a deep furlough. The problem with a lanyard type campaign is who you negotiate with. Pilots for a legacy negotiate with the legacy, while pilots for a regional negotiate only with the regional after the legacy pilots have established the boundaries with the parent company. A regional union can’t demand to flow up, and they can’t stop a furlough protection agreement between a legacy union and the respective company. From all of the people that I have flown with who are involved in the hiring process at United, they have all said that the company wants no part of a true flow agreement. They want to pick and choose their own nut jobs, not have them handed to them.