[QUOTE=CAirBear;3150279]Everything written these last 2 pages is 1000% correct. It is refreshing to see some people are waking up.

Back in 2016 I spent 2.5 years there before leaving for a competing Airbus ULCC. The grass isn’t just greener, it looks like Augusta National.

Simply put, people don’t know what they don’t know. All of the lifers that can’t/won’t leave just assume getting treated like trash is simply par for the course at NK, F9, B6 and every legacy out there. It’s incredibly sad.

I am now treated with the respect and professionalism that we all deserve. It isn’t lip service. It’s real and I (even before the pandemic) did not renew my AirlineApps this last year.

I flew with some really nice folks, like most airlines, and I did enjoy most CAs. I remember when I told them I was leaving.

You could hear it in their voices that, some, wanted to leave too, but they were golden handcuffed to the place. I get it. Your there 10+ years and top of the scale so you think/can’t move on. It sucks.

I was in a class of 10. There are 4 left from my class. Only 1 of them, my old sim partner, fits the mold and lives in base, kids and is older etc. I suspect even he would be leaving if he were able to. The other 3? No idea.

I’m still friends with them all and I hear the constant and pathetic BS that has (and will continue to) happen. It’s just incredible anyone deals with that. If your justification of being treated like absolute trash is “but I’m home every night” you have to take a step back and really think about this. Do you value yourself and demand respect? If so, why are you putting your self worth on the back burner because your home?

I commuted (willingly and didn’t complain about it) while at Allegiant. It wasn’t that big of a deal for me. I like where I live, have and always will commute. I had my own room/apartment in base and another car.

My hometown was announced as a base 6 months after leaving. I knew that within 1-2 years of leaving it would most likely become a base. It’s a great market for Allegiant and had been rumored for a long time. When I heard the news, I simply laughed and went about my day. Not a single ounce of regret whatsoever.

I can honestly say, even with doing overnight trips now, that I would still be “home” more where I work now than if I were based at home with Allegiant. I’ll explain.

The way the schedules work (and granted maybe it is more tolerable in smaller bases) you will either do a west coast or FL out and back. The junior guys, will do long duty and oftentimes unproductive block 4 leg days. You may only get 1-3 out and backs a month.

Essentially the long out and backs go senior and middle of the pack/junior guys will have 10-12 hour duty days and maybe only block 4-5 hours for the day.

They are long days and when you “get home” you aren’t really home. You aren’t kicking it with the boys, or have seen your family/kids all day. Your tired. If your unlucky (Which is def likely) you’ll be doing the exact same day 11 hours later and having to go to bed

At the end of the day, I value myself enough that I don’t tolerate Disrespect and I will not work for those that don’t value or treat me with respect. It’s that simple. I don’t change my values because “I’m home every night”.


Family first, then work is the reason I stay. I value the respect of my family. Good for you that you are in lush green pastures. I wouldn’t give up being home with my family every night for any airline. I like your condescending tone, “my feelings are so important that I would take that over spending more time with my family” Implying my values are messed up. If I traded my schedule for yours my wife would never respect me again. That’s what I love about her, she gets it.