Originally Posted by
jj158
If you saw the ALPA Fast Read tonight, you can probably guess its about me. I want to be clear, I'm not on here posting anonymously trying to incite fear. In fact, you can see from my previous posts where I have offered to give my phone number to those who disagree with my perspective on here in an attempt to explain our sides better. I have tried to work with ALPA on this and they have continued to misguide those effected... and to prove my point I will refer you back to the email from tonight.
Paragraph 3 of the email paints a great picture of what they've done with the grievance: they filed my issue form, filed a group grievance, and then "filed an appeal to the System Board of Adjustment (arbitration)."
Here's the problem: they filed the appeal to the review board, but they haven't enforced the appeal. Section 21.D in the CBA specifically says, "The Review Board will convene January, April, July, and October...". Call your rep or the Chairman and ask if they met in October as the CBA requires. The answer is they did not, but he left that part out of the email.
Rather than being honest in an attempt to "Set the Record Straight" the Chairman only delivered half of the facts. In a 5 paragraph email, only 2 sentences were devoted to actual facts of this case--everything else was fluff and identifying me. This has been the theme from the beginning of this process: obscuring information, not answering pertinent questions, and misguiding our colleagues.
I have talked to lots of pilots effected and each one has been given different excuses from various reps. Further, I have email proof of reps obscuring what information they have in an attempt to not represent the bonus. One rep was caught saying "I don't have this document so I can't answer your questions", but then emails surfaced of him forwarding the same document internally a month earlier to colleagues.
While the Chairman did list some facts, he failed to mention all the facts, which is what I've been saying from the beginning.
It's not even about the bonus anymore. It's about holding our representatives accountable. We think of the CBA as an agreement between us and the company. But it's also an agreement between us and ALPA; we pay dues and they represent us. I apologize that the chairman had to "take time from other important work to provide the facts and set the record straight." But ask yourself, did he tell you all the facts about this?
When I saw the Fast Read last night, I was glad that it was addressed but it's unfortunate that it had to be. From reading your posts on here in the past and listening to you in the crew room, I took your word on a lot of what you said and am ashamed to say that I angrily went after the reps and the committee chairmen as you directed us to do multiple times. I got a very different story when I went to them and that's why I have told you and everyone else to go to the source for factual information. Whenever we get information from them, you jump online or spout off in the crew room literally trying to get us to believe that their messages mean something completely different than what it does. Surprise surprise, you've done it again.
Originally Posted by
jj158
If you saw the ALPA Fast Read tonight, you can probably guess its about me. I want to be clear, I'm not on here posting anonymously trying to incite fear. In fact, you can see from my previous posts where I have offered to give my phone number to those who disagree with my perspective on here in an attempt to explain our sides better. I have tried to work with ALPA on this and they have continued to misguide those effected... and to prove my point I will refer you back to the email from tonight.
Giving people your phone number to tell them that the formal emails we get actually mean something else from what they say is not an "attempt to explain our sides better." Stating that the emails signed by the people actually doing the work are written to misguide us proves that you actually have no idea what you are talking about. Instead you prefer to undermine the work done on our behalf.
Originally Posted by
jj158
Paragraph 3 of the email paints a great picture of what they've done with the grievance: they filed my issue form, filed a group grievance, and then "filed an appeal to the System Board of Adjustment (arbitration)."
Here's the problem: they filed the appeal to the review board, but they haven't enforced the appeal. Section 21.D in the CBA specifically says, "The Review Board will convene January, April, July, and October...". Call your rep or the Chairman and ask if they met in October as the CBA requires. The answer is they did not, but he left that part out of the email.
Here we go again with you typing words to pretend you know what's going on but clearly have no idea. The emails sent to us spells out the steps that they took leading up to the appeal and then you claim fault that they "haven't enforced the appeal." This is a clear statement that shows your ignorance of the process and your desire to attack the guys that are actually working for us. You cannot enforce an appeal. An appeal means that you disagree with the decision and it goes through an additional process (arbitration) to have it decided by another party. You don't get to just "enforce" your position.
You then attacked the grievance chairman again and definitively claim that he is hiding the fact that they haven't held a meeting. Do you have any proof of this?
Originally Posted by
jj158
Rather than being honest in an attempt to "Set the Record Straight" the Chairman only delivered half of the facts. In a 5 paragraph email, only 2 sentences were devoted to actual facts of this case--everything else was fluff and identifying me. This has been the theme from the beginning of this process: obscuring information, not answering pertinent questions, and misguiding our colleagues.
I have talked to lots of pilots effected and each one has been given different excuses from various reps. Further, I have email proof of reps obscuring what information they have in an attempt to not represent the bonus. One rep was caught saying "I don't have this document so I can't answer your questions", but then emails surfaced of him forwarding the same document internally a month earlier to colleagues.
I think he did a good job "setting the record straight." He stated the facts and has cleared up the false narrative that you try to portray of knowing more than the people doing the work for us. I have hard your "proof" in the crew room and just like your post, you blatantly try to claim that the messages say something else or purposely do not say something which automatically means your conspiracy theories are correct.
Originally Posted by
jj158
While the Chairman did list some facts, he failed to mention all the facts, which is what I've been saying from the beginning.
It's not even about the bonus anymore. It's about holding our representatives accountable. We think of the CBA as an agreement between us and the company. But it's also an agreement between us and ALPA; we pay dues and they represent us. I apologize that the chairman had to "take time from other important work to provide the facts and set the record straight." But ask yourself, did he tell you all the facts about this?
Again, more baseless accusations. It's obvious now that you are desperately grasping for straws. The union has been pretty transparent about what is going on. Claiming that we are not getting "all the facts" just shows that you are bitter and lacking of all understanding of how a representative process works. On many of your posts you demand to know exactly what is discussed in a negotiating or settlement discussion. News Flash - Those discussions are confidential so both sides can discuss options without being publicly tied to them before any agreement is made.
I do think we have some good people working for us. It is sad that they had take time away from their other work to address the misinformation campaign that you keep trying to push. You benefit from all that work like the rest of us but then benefitted even more by being recalled after only a month of furlough. There are many other pilots here and at other airlines that would be glad to be in your position.