Originally Posted by
Softpayman
https://apple.news/AYmcPNPO4RJ2HyQqbLoyZ4A
Definitely everything is pointing to strong demand and us needing more pilots. Without a doubt.
Sorry just because Frontier opens a window (which literally means they’ll accept computer resumes) I don’t see improvement anytime soon.
That being said sure let’s ask for profit sharing. But don’t be shocked that the word furlough is still in the conversation.
https://hub.united.com/2021-01-20-un...650045521.html
Since you want to to bring up United, why don’t we discuss with a little more context. They just had a bid come out that gets everyone mostly back into their old seats according to a thread in their forum. Back to the 5 year captain and such. Even with all the international that everyone keeps saying will take longer to recover, even with their large business travel that will take longer to recover, even with all their widebodies that are idle, even with their other parked planes, they appear to be doing the opposite of considering furloughs. They pulled down the most the fastest, and now they appear to have the wheels in motion to be posturing for the recovery.
Robin H has said they are also working under the assumption that travel will significantly recover by the end of this year. There is almost zero chance of a furlough right now, and anytime soon. If the company did it before the end of summer, it would be the company cutting off its nose to spite its face, or due to continued sustained demand for the 2nd half of the year, which they will know about by the summer. But if the revenue still sucks by then, even with this AIP, they can still furlough in October. So what does it matter?
Realistically, because furloughs cost so much money, and because there’s such a long payoff period (at least 6-9 months) before its viable, and a long lag to displace & train both directions, there will be further negotiations to mitigate them if it comes down to it. Right now, that’s not even a conversation topic, other than being used as a sound bite with scary numbers by ALPA to sell the AIP.