Sort of. There may be 1 or 2 BES where it gets that low, but only with grandfathered guys. So while junior NB CA may end up being a 5 year, it isn’t actually available to be bid by anyone of that seniority, as of yet. Most junior non-grandfathered NB CAs I’m seeing are around mid 8,xxx seniority. (Maybe someone can put a number on that- closer to 10 years+?)