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Old 02-11-2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaver Hunter

Beaver Hunter:

If you had read the original posting by "iahflyr", you would have seen his reference to how things are going to "swing back" and conditions and compensation improve. The United Airlines Contract 2000 was specifically referenced and an inference made that was the acceptable baseline. My reply was simply to state, as OKLATEX did so tactfully, that a CEO in today's environment could not get Board approval, stockholder approval or probably lenders approval to sign a similiar contract. It simply will not fly and there isn't any airline out there that could afford it today. United could not afford Contract 2000 at the time of signing although I give Captain Rick Dubinsky all the credit in the world for forcing it on the company and I'm indebted to him for the 2 great years we had.

Lower the bar ? Pleeeze. Whenever you have spent 20+ years fighting with your company for wage increases, fought for better hotels, better trip rigs, duty rigs and per diem and whenever you've walked a picket line while scabs crossed in front of you, then come talk to me. Oh yes, if you would like to spend an additional nine years working for the line pilots through your MEC and 6 years fighting the Washington Beltine political establishment as a member of an ALPA national committee to improve the lot of the last member on your seniority list, then come talk to me.

Lastly, try using spell check on your next post. Your note reads like an elementary school student wrote it with the misspelled words and incorrect grammar.

Hope your day gets better and for the "professional" pilots out there, please excuse the rant. My apologies.

Best of luck to all....I really do hope the industry recovers to pre 9/11 level of flight operations and compensation.

G'Day
I appreciate the grammer lesson. One cannot make a point if one is unable to communicate effectively. However, I am not a new guy to this profession. I was once told to be a real airline pilot I had to work for six airlines. Check.
Be in ALPA. Check.
Be Furloughed.Check
Get a divorce. Hope that one I can pass on
Go on Strike. Ready to walk the line.
I have been a Member of ALPA for over 15 years. I have served as a chairman of a committee and assisted in union organizing activities. So please spare me the rant. I have been there and done that.
I would suggest that you funnel your energies into assisting your pilot group in raising the bar. Remember CEOs accross the globe seem to have no problems getting more $$$, no matter how poor their performance might be. As pilots we skillfully operate million dollar machines which carry billions of dollars of liability. Most of us posses a skill that makes the accomplishment of this task appear easy to the untrained. Lets stop giving our services away. We are worth more.

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