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Old 02-09-2021 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike
There is no AAG certificate. Alaska Air Group or Air Group is a medium. Alaska Airlines inc. is the 121 certificate holder that flies 321/737. Alaska Airlines inc. is authorized to operate as an airline including selling seats. Alaska Airlines inc has contracted with Horizon Air industries and Skywest Airlines inc for lift. Neither regional airline is set up for or authorized any longer to hold out to the public air transportation. In the past, both airlines actually operated commuter air carriers that code shared with other airlines. No more. So none of the contracted lift, which is all Horizon and Skywest are, bring any equity to a merger. Horizon still has a number of pilots and flight attendants who worked for the old Horizon when it still sold tickets and had reservations etc...They did not make the transition mentally to the new Fee For Departure airline they now work for. I feel for them. They had a great little airline. Horizon made them pretend to be Alaska. All the We are Alaska BS. Took away their identity. The flight attendants have to wear the identical uniform as Alaska and pretend to be Alaska but Horizon pays half as much and puts them in sh”””ty hotels and works the life out of them. All around Sh””ty deal for everyone at Horizon.
I know how regionals work.

Horizon is a certificated 121 flag carrier. There is no 'holding out.' They are authorized to sell tickets just like everyone else, AAG does it for them. AAG owns the reservations systems, ticket sales, Magee, Horizon, everything. Alaska Air Inc, the airline is also a subsidiary of AAG.

If AAG decides to flip the script one day and award flying 737's, airbuses, 747's, you name it at Horizon, there is nothing the Alaska pilots could legally do about it except whine on APC. This isn't the old days where mainline pilots had ATP's and type ratings while the regionals had commercial pilots certificates, there is no difference.
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