Originally Posted by VERITABLE

Big B6 fan here. Wish nothing less than the best for the pilot group and your career expectations. That said, I am actually afraid for you guys should your vote pass. I have been read in on most of the stuff, seen videos, etc. and to me it comes off as a LOT of spin and speculation, but not much substance. Amateur hour from both sides. Every member of your group deserves a better informed and vetted process than this. I’m not saying your representatives and paid proponents should be able to see the future for the next decade+, but for the love of career preservation, at the bare minimum, incorporate protections that you need, should the company change its intentions downrange.

Your company is asking for a lot of flexibility on staffing and expenditures and they want you to assume ALL the risk for the price of 2 cents on the dollar and a software update. That’s the work of a skilled pickpocket. Don’t be their pushover. Delta got their profit sharing formula during tough times, losing billions, pension chopped, furloughs. And they managed later to keep it by vote even after their MEC negotiated it away while under guidance by ALPA national. We all need our companies to do well, especially when times are tough, and the “give” in tough times needs to be reconciled with sharing in the good times. And not the “profit sharing” that is the punchline to a joke. Delta’s formula costs the bottom line nothing, yet it partially reconciles what they gave up to help the company when needed. And it wasn’t achieved because the company “heard them” and thought they should revisit it in Section 6 negotiation. JB doesn’t “hear you”, but they will, one way or another, after this vote. And consider the disrespect and condescension towards you revealed during pocket pool by the claim “we’re doing it anyway and you won’t get any “protections.”” Amateur hour.

You’re not calling anybody’s bluff by voting no. You’re protecting your existing contract. It doesn’t matter if the company doesn’t re-engage in negotiations, because you already gained by not making a decade+ concession. If you buy into selling scope because it “codifies gains to our careers” and take a few pennies because it “aims to raise the bar and bring us more in line with our peers”, and find credibility, rather than see the spin in “we are the only airline offering a 2% raise in these times”, then I am truly afraid for your amended career expectations as a result.

Also, just saw the new aid package being worked on now has another 15B airline payroll protection until end of September. Furlough mitigation is noble, but it’s not a hill to die on. The company would love the appearance of furloughs occurring because of your no vote. You are not causing any furloughs by voting no. That decision is a corporate one and don’t be falsely guilted otherwise.

Again, your entire group has my best wishes. These are the times when gaps to industry standard can be narrowed significantly and they rarely come around. By contrast, the times when concessions are asked for are frequent and plentiful. Good luck.