Originally Posted by
RJDriver900
I am quite aware how you gain seniority at an airline. It is a no brainer that in order to gain a line or move up you either need people senior to you to leave or for the airline to gain flying and aircraft so there is an increase in lines. Pre covid there was tons of movement at PSA. In a covid environment where there are few regionals hiring, and hiring industry wide being stagnant with a surplus of pilots, are you really going to tell a CFI that its a bad idea to get on a seniority list sooner rather than later if given that opportunity? Regardless of the fact they will be on reserve which is going to be anywhere they go right now.
Look at companies like Envoy or even here at PSA in regards to furloughs. The quicker you get on and the quicker you get people under you the higher your position in case furloughs happen again. I have a buddy who took a sooner class date at Envoy when he was offered it instead of his original one. He took it to get more people underneath him and guess what he barely made the cut of not being furloughed. So yes I stick by the get on where you can and get people underneath you mindset even more so with as many regionals that have gone under and pilots looking for gigs . Especially as a CFI if given the opportunity to get a type rating instead of burning laps in the pattern. A 121 pilot with a type even sitting reserve with little 121 time is a better position to be than flying GA in a pattern where the hours are useless if your end goal is airlines.
I get getting on a seniority list is great, but again it has nothing to do with how many are below you but how many are above you. If an airline only has flying for 300 people they will furlough everyone after 300, it makes no difference whether they have 301 or 2000 pilots, they will furlough everyone but the top 300. The only way to get to the top 300 is if everyone above you cycles out and you get into the top 300. Look at expressjet, compass and tsa. Everyone was furloughed because they had no flying. Seniority is always relative to how long you have been there. It’s all a crapshoot, yes you want to get in as seniority is everything, but in general 3 years of seniority is the same regardless of when you join when there is constant steady movement.