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Old 05-06-2006 | 07:58 PM
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From: Retired UPS 767 Captain, SDF Z
Red face Hey, I agree with Browntail on this one...

Browntail pretty much covered it.

If you want a job secured by a seniority number, a manglement job at UPS is not for you. Although Browntail alludes that a mangler pilot can be fired at the drop of a hat, not many have. Only one for trying to organize, and another recently because he was an idiot and poor pilot (he stepped on it in the sim with the FAA observing, and eventually got the axe). Some have left on their own accord, and the ability to get promoted to a higher position (instead of a career enhancing sideways move) is limited at best. The UPS manglement pyramid is extremely fat on the bottom and gets real thin real quick.

You'd initially get a training and a type in one of our aircraft types and work in the training center teaching in the sim, with additional duties and special projects like assisting in new training programs, etc. Then you get to perform recurrent checkrides, and eventually become an FAA designee for initial type rides. You get to do all of this five days a week and then fly on your days off to build time and maintain currency. If you're given a weekend project due by Wednesday and get it done early on Tuesday, you'll get two projects for the next weekend....yadda, yadda, yadda.

If you tough out this type of schedule, and don't mind all of the manglement backstabbing and closet blowjobs required for true advancement up the pyramid, you'll get to be an assistant chief pilot and get sent on a "special project" on the gateway audit team or possibly some other career enhancing non-flying job. You could get assigned to support one of our gateways in ONT, RFD, MIA, or ANC.

If you don't want to advance, but find a job you like, I know several retired military types who have been hiding in standards doing line checks for the past 17 years. So if you find a niche... they're all retiring soon, that's why we hired so many manglement pilots over the past year.

The pay is very good (probably start around $125k), the health benefits good (but not as good as a line pilot), you're home every day after work, and the stability is actually good. It beats the crap out of living in your furlough palace.

You'll have to move to Louisville (they pay for EVERYTHING).

Personally, I'd rather go to SWA and work for a living before I'd come here as a mangler, but you gotta do what ya gotta do.
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