Originally Posted by
MudhammedCJ
That lack of pharmaceutical company liability is true for all vaccines. It has been for decades now. Regardless, this "vaccine" is different in that it's not really a vaccine in the traditional sense. Don't go by how Merriam-Webster defines the word though, they quietly changed their definition last month to incorporate these new "vaccines."
As has been said, you can get the covid "vaccine" and still get infected by and pass on covid to others. How are you immunized if that is not only possible, but likely? Show me someone getting and giving measles or polio after having been vaccinated for those diseases.
I get that there is more than just living or dying though. I know people with long/longer term covid effects. Even if your chances of dying as a healthy individual under 70 are very minimal, there are those that suffer from lung damage, etc. No one wants to be included in those statistics. But if there are therapeutic treatments that are effective, wouldn't you like to know your options and be able to make an informed decision with your doctor? Unfortunately it has all been politicised for whatever reasons. Who knows what the truth is?
I do know that I don't want to be a Guinea Pig without more information and actual non-biased studies and statistics on the efficacy of the "vaccines" AND the various therapeutic treatments. Whether that drug company is getting billions for jabbing the population with a new type of vaccine or only 50 cents for the horse or malaria pill, I think we should individually decide how we treat. And that doesn't mean we get relegated to second class citizens without the ability to travel etc. for having made that decision. I'm trying to see the perspective of the "you must vaccinate" crowd. I think it would be wise for them to look a little deeper into the other sides perspective also.
Ah so many fallacies and misstatements all wrapped up into one post it would take a dissertation to separate and refute it all with facts.
I’ll do a quick one though and just hit the big ones. First off there is not going to be BILLIONS in profits for the vaccine makers. Astra and J&J have pledged to sell it at cost, around 4 dollars a jab. Moderna, who happened to spend BILLIONS to develop the absolutely amazing RNA technology is around 37 a jab but they have years of R&D and higher transportation costs to recover so they most likely will not make much if any on the vaccine. I can happily send you links to the websites that have done detailed financial analysis into that fact if you want.
The fact that Asta and J&J have both been paused due to blood clotting investigations tells us the system of checks and balances are working and free of political pull. They saw an issue and decided to pause it as they investigate it. It seems after a detailed mathematical analysis it has the side effects on par with some birth control medicine. I’d imagine this week J&J will be once again on the market. If there was political pull it would be ignored, see SputnikV to see how that works.
The definition of a vaccine has not changed. It’s been the same for decades. Cut and pasted below.
Definition of vaccine
: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease:
These same people who claimed it was changed actually earlier said the dictionary changed the definition of a virus because of COVID 19 last year. That was proven false also.
I’m not going to get into efficacy and efficiencies of vaccines and how viruses can still be spread as I don’t want this to get too long but please be objective and get off of Q endorsed websites, the father son team that faked that whole to thing has been exposed, but damned for how much money they made it’s a tempting proposition....
In short, you can have your own opinion but you can not have your own set of facts. Facts are indisputable.
I could care less if you get it, as more and more people get it the defense against it gets weaker and weaker. We will never get 100 percent or 90 percent. Society will end up protecting you in a socialized sort of way, herd immunity is the definition of socialization if you think about it. Now if I had my way though if you chose not to get it and come down with it you can not get public medical aid in any way but that would never pass muster with the bleeding hearts....
Lastly every company should be free to decide if they will accept deniers on their products or not. Because it still can be spread to others it creates a legal liability in relation to employers and employees and other patrons. Plus private business can do what they want to do without recourse from the federal government within certain boundaries of course but virus infection is not a protected class. So you don’t get it Carnival can say no cruise for you and it’s legal and correct.