[QUOTE=Grumpyaviator;3224284]There’s no such thing as Mother Nature. There’s science, physics, biology, mathematics, etc; and a God behind it who reveals its secrets to us and therefore we are able to adapt.[/QUOTE

Well we know where Grumpy is on Sunday mornings...

Science vs Religion, the age old battle. I think it’s fair to say that’s beyond the scope of APC and would not go well at all. So let’s stick with facts.