Those lances below the most junior captain are no longer lances. They cannot hold anywhere in the top 3.2% of the FO list. I believe Oakland is still the most junior lance base and recently I flew with a guy that was like 3 from getting cut and he was almost 800 numbers senior to me. Now once you do go through the upgrade you can still do your recurrent and qualifications from the left seat. This will keep you qualified so you don’t have to go through the whole upgrade training. The lance program was almost always more senior then junior captain cause you got best of both worlds. For some lances they would never hold their bidding power (because of age) on vacation because of age 65. Basically please keep your bids at 100% for every domicile so I can get outta Oakland !!!