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Old 05-20-2021 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sky jet
This is going to be an unpopular post but I came here to read what the people working at Envoy had to say about this Media presentation and came across the above post. For background, I flew Beech 1900's in the late 80's and early 90's with just VOR's NDB's and no autopilot and I believe the above statement to be true, IN THE UNITED STATES. Why is this in caps and why is it important? Because up until very recently ACMI pilots were flying second generation jets like B747-200's, DC10's and B727's into third world airports that are far more challenging and with on board equipment that was much less advanced than any RJ flying today. For the most part they quietly did it day in and day out safely. If you think your managements are bad look up the people that owned Evergreen, Rosenbaum, the original Southern Air Transport etc.. Even today many of the RJ's flying in the US have more advance avionics than the 747-400 which is still very popular with UPS, K4, Atlas and others. Many foreign pilots are operating the same aircraft you are today in places like India, Afghanistan and Africa successfully every day with working conditions that sometimes make slave galleys look like Carnival cruises. Why do I point all of this out? Stop using this as an excuse. Yes, the mainlines have bad pilots who make bone head moves, Yes, you work harder for less money than mainline pilots and many freight pilots. It's not an excuse. Up your game. Monitor the NFP or PIC and speak up when necessary. Sometimes you might need to shout if their head is up their a** and their ears are blocked. Just because your jobs are hard and CNN is a commentary presenter and not a news source doesn't mean that some of their points are wrong. A little introspection might be in order. Many will roll their eyes and flame away at this post. I understand. Nobody likes their part of the industry, company, co-workers or themselves embarrassed in the media but it's out there now. Maybe we all can learn something from it.

The point we are making is that we are getting blasted for doing a go around while other airlines have landed on taxiways, while a national news piece wasn’t done on it.

There’s learning from mistakes, and then there’s hit pieces from a news network that lost their airport contract, while knowingly attacking the American Airlines brand as well, which affects the American Eagle brand, and subsequent regionals who fly for AE branded flights.

That’s great you flew 6 packs with NDB’s, so have I. But that doesn’t matter for this context. When you have a training program that forces you to adapt to newer technologies (rightfully so) and then only put half of that technology in the aircraft that they expect you to fly to just past the edge of minimums with a snow storm with faulty ATC directives, and you STILL conduct a go around and then get in trouble for it, at what point do you win? It becomes a culture problem, not an aircraft equipment problem.


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