Originally Posted by
Trip7
Tower assigned heading and altitudes plus how much fuel do we have is all that needs to be briefed. This takes a quarter or less of the time it takes to talk about published missed hold and how you will enter the hold. Not sure why you assume a realistic plan has to be complicated. BTW the training department has started to emphasize the Briefs not only be relevent but also "brief"
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MMMX .... has any arrival ever happened as briefed? And that sucker can be briefed for hours.
Suggested briefing "you'll get vectors to inbound radials, these may be random. Someone have terrain up. Expect loss of nav systems and to be hit with a laser somewhere in the vicinity of the prison. RNAV/VNAV is your friend. Expect landing clearance at 300 feet. Missed - don't hit the mountain or the TS5 off the approach end. Probably best to hook a left before the ash plume, a right just by the EF5 then avoid the hail and you'll be fine.
Summary - Air Traffic Control is not so much "control" as it is a "service."
Nothing against the MMMX controllers. They're actually really good, working with a lot of accented traffic (including us) into a really sub-standard airport with terrain and volcanos.