Originally Posted by
rickair7777
I've known more people get fired for what they said on the CVR vice what they actually did. About half of those were not at fault at all, or flew the plane before the incident crew. If you have an incident that puts you an employment grey area to begin with, gross unprofessionalism or bad-mouthing the company on tape will make it very easy for them to pull the trigger, and the union won't have any high-ground to save you either.
One guy got fired because his CA hit the jetway on on taxi-in that the FO 100% could not see... but he left a running profane monologue on the tape about the company in general and specific managers (all the way from cruise to impact at the gate). The CA, who suffered the tirade in silence got run through the wringer for a year but got his job back and he was the one who hit the jetway.
Your professionalism on the CVR is your best defensive pitch to keep your job.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the FAA NOT allowed to use CVRs in enforcement actions? The company can do as it needs to.
Originally Posted by
rickair7777
Years ago IIRC XJT had a guy like that in crew scheduling... their next contract included language specifying that the guy in question, BY NAME, was not allowed to be employed in a position involving supervision, scheduling, or interacation with flight crew (think he went mesa after). So there's always that.
So they were really THAT bad at their position that the union went and put that into the contract OR was it more of an attitude issue towards flight crews that caused that language to be added in?