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Old 05-24-2021 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FAR121
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the FAA NOT allowed to use CVRs in enforcement actions? The company can do as it needs to.
Correct the FAA isn't supposed to use CVR data for enforcement: 121.359(h)

But the company can, and it doesn't even have to have much to do with safety. Any office worker knows that if he's going to stand around the cubicles and bad-mouth the boss that he needs to be careful who's listening. With pilots we basically know the company is always listening, unless you have CBA provisions about that.

Originally Posted by FAR121
So they were really THAT bad at their position that the union went and put that into the contract OR was it more of an attitude issue towards flight crews that caused that language to be added in?
My understanding was that the one individual was so toxic that the union made him a priority target. He was well known in the industry, and had held the same job at other airlines, using the same methods so obviously management liked his MO.
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