Originally Posted by Casualinterest

This process has been in play for at least 6 years.

Edvalpa had probably half a dozen formal meetings on career progression on the last several years. Many proposals have been submitted. If you're interested, we had one plan that was nearly accepted (and supposedly was going to be accepted by delta before the pandemic)

The CAP (career advancement plan) had several criteria and was a guaranteed and contractual model to delta.

The program had certain "gates" that a pilot had to meet before flowing. Some achievement based (upgrade, LCA, CP, etc). Some personal ( no DUI, volunteer experience, continued education). But the idea was to earn points or merit in certain categories in order to prove to delta you were delta material.

The idea on our side was that someone who maybe didn't have a degree could offset that with high achievement (LCA, etc). Or someone with some stuff in their background from a million years ago could be really involved in their community and show personal development.

We believed that a 5-6 year continuous interview would be a more accurate reflection than a two day event that could be prepped to robotic perfection. That when you reached the requisite amount of points or gates or whatever you simply flowed over to Delta with no interview or psych eval.

Fwiw a plan almost identical to this was actually proposed TO us during the flow talks until everyone realized it was going to take to long to hammer out and they fell back on just using the original loa 9 terms.

Hope that helps your understanding of how this process went down. We certainly didn't go into any meetings with scope in our sights.

From the looks of it this was Delta (JL and co) thought process. We want these 35 planes back + we were going to do progression with endeavor= maybe we can conbine the two. We got screwed by them doing a flip on us and suddenly connecting our (nearly) decade long progression gains to this crap loa.