Originally Posted by
Airhoss
For all the people asking about training on a specific type. You’ll get a training syllabus, it literally tells you what to study and where to find what to study in the manual for each and every day. If you simply read and look up the material it tells you to read you’ll have no problems.
The training environment is all about learning and getting you through with the best understanding you can possibly have of your new airplane. Instructors are helpful and you shouldn’t find any stump the dummy style training. If you’ve got a question ask it! There are no stupid questions.
Here is the training breakdown after indoc;
Systems + a systems validation.
Procedures done in a fixed base non motion sim + a procedures validation
Maneuvers in the full motion sim + a maneuvers validation.
The final phase is LOFT phase then your final evaluation is the Line Oriented Evaluation.
If you need additional training the stop points are the validations. You’ll receive additional training as much as you need after a validation. Once you’re caught up you continue moving through training. By the time you get to your LOE it should be the easiest thing you’ve done in the sim. You’ll be over prepared for the LOE.
Just a note on the difference between training and validations. Training is training the instructor will teach and explain and show. Validations are not a training session. The evaluator will simply watch and evaluate with very minimal if any instruction. The job of an evaluator is to see if you meet the standards and will be able to succeed in the next training block.
If you need additional training THAT IS NOT A FAILURE! You won’t be washed out or chastised. You’ll be trained to proficiency and then move back into the training flow.
I was an instructor/evaluator off and on for a total of 13 years. In all that time I’ve had maybe three crews that needed additional training on a qual maneuvers validation. And maybe that many who needed additional training at the end of the loft phase.
The biggest area that I saw additional training events was on the procedures phase on the 756. When I was teaching on it the program was not set up for new hires, Back then if you didn’t already know how to work the 756 FMC you were going to need some additional training. I’m guessing that has changed.
And just BTW everybody that got additional training went on to pass the course with no problems. The training at UAL is set up for success and learning. You’ve got to some serious personality flaws to wash out of training here.
Pretty much sums up the footprint. The hardest thing for me with the 756 course was the systems validation due to all of the differences. The test gets into the weeds on the differences between the different 756 types. The format is great though. You need to have completed all systems CBT’s and have a fairly solid understanding before class starts or you’ll be drinking from a fire hose. Review the systems in the morning with an instructor, and then go apply them in a FTD in the afternoon. There are a bunch of FTD’s to have flows, call outs, and procedures down cold before getting to full flight sims. My training partner and I both had lots of prior Boeing box time, so by the time that we got to full flight sims we were actually bored and wanting to speed things up. My only complaint is that they need to add another day or two to systems considering how many different planes you have to know, but the quality of instructors and consistency was spot on.