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Old 06-05-2021 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
I have zero faith in them. Maybe get us 1% pay bump and a worse profit sharing then we had before. Even the old profit sharing wouldn’t get me to vote yes.

We are clearly a very divided pilot group (48/52%, I think) and I hope management doesn’t exploit that.

Clearly, the vocal half is on APC, but many of us and most of the people I fly with do see the value in the NEA. The bigger question is not if the NEA will stand or not. I do not see any arbitrator canceling it, under any circumstances, IMHO—they will find a remedy for us, the pilots, but would prefer if ALPA and the company worked it out on our own. The question becomes what can we negotiate to allow it to continue. I’d much rather come up with an agreeable solution with the company, than take our chances with an arbitrator. Those with arbitration experience will probably agree with this.

The question becomes, if the NEA is happening, regardless of our thoughts, hopes, and wishes— where is your line in the sand? Is it pay increases? Mandatory yearly block hour increases? Virtual bases? More QDL pay (kidding with that one- sort of).

just to sum up quickly. Just voting no, to say no doesn’t get us anywhere. It means we have no control and the arbitrator will do whatever she/he desires. I’d much rather vote on something concrete that helps us, as pilots than just saying “you decide” to someone without aviation experience who is just trying not to “rock the boat”

thoughts?
Input?
Am I looking at this the wrong way?
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