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Old 06-09-2021, 06:37 AM
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Bgood
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Originally Posted by seekingblue View Post
lots to unpack here….

I think it’s safe to say you and I are on very different sides of this vote. Not trying to change your mind or your viewpoint, but rather give you insight into the mind of a yes voter. Despite 47% of us voting yes, very few of us actually are willing to be public about it.

My few points to give everyone insight into my thought process-

1) why do you consider this LOA a back stabbing for selfish reasons? Aren’t all our gains selfish? Isn’t it selfish that I want the highest pay possible? Look— I wanted this LOA to pass for one specific reason: growth. More airplanes, more pilots, more block hours— with added protections to not roll back numbers. Selfish or not, this is good for us as a pilot group. More upgrades, more new hires, and more VDA’s if that is your thing.

2) ........
Do you believe we wouldn't have growth without the FC to FC and FC to international allowance? Let's dissect this, lets say company followed the CBA and keep AA and their RJs codesharing out of our FC to FC and FC to international.

FC to FC: We would fly all of those, if company wants more frequency, We fly it. Not codeshare it to AA (which does nothing for our growth). Sounds like growth would still be there.

FC to international: if company wants to fly somewhere within our aircraft capability, WE would fly it, then they can still codeshare to AA for the further distances to which our current aircraft cannot reach. Sounds like growth for us would still be there.

So without LOA 13, the NEA can still go on within the scope of the CBA. The NEA wouldn't stop, growth wouldn't stop, and if the NEA never existed we still would continue with the planned growth on recovery. This is why I can't fathom your reasoning of saying you voted yes due to growth.

And yes we get nothing much from LOA 13, actually nothing.
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