I always got along with him just fine. He was not a gregarious person and he was a little stiff. He was the ALPA safety chairman for the old PSA and took his safety duties very seriously. He was easy to get along with and very professional. He drank very little didn't smoke and worked out a lot.

We were paired for a month on PIT red-eyes. The flight went from PIT to SFO at around 6:00PM Eastern and we landed in SFO at about 8:00PM pacific. You had all the next day and takeoff was at about 10:PM the next day. All night flight arriving in PIT at around 6:00AM. Sully flew this trip regularly so he could go home in SFO. West Coast guys would double up on these and adjust the schedules and trip swap to max out time home.

I only flew these trips because it was the last line available in PIT before they closed the base in 2008.