Originally Posted by
tsimmns927
Question for someone just now starting training and hoping to maybe land at Envoy or PSA I’ve always heard the flow should be used as a last ditch resort. Get your hours, get in and get out. With flow possibly being at 15 possible years Is this still not the same thought. I mean I know captain upgrades might no longer be 2 years like In the past, but a 5th year captain makes more than what I make at my current job and I’d rather be getting paid to fly than paid to work on airplanes myself.
Yea but unless you show up with Turbine PIC time, by the time your eligible to upgrade LCC/ACMI cargo are looking at you.
8-10k a month as an RJ CA, with 2-3 years of your 7 year flow behind you. Or LCC/cargo FO with zero turbine pic and likely 0 chance of ever leaving the LCC/cargo for anything better until you upgrade there.
Decide if you want to be an FO at legacy or CA at an LCC/cargo, those can likely happen around the same time in your career.
Getting hired at a legacy is difficult with only 1,000TPIC if you started at a regional with all single engine piston civilian time. Plenty of people jump the flow or get hired at Delta, United or FedEx. Plenty start at a regional with more the 50 hours multi piston, or have an inside track, or benefit from affirmative action, or got involved in the training department.
1,500hour flight instructor who upgrades at 1,200 company time has, 2700tt and after 1,000pic has 3,700tt and really isn’t very competitive at a legacy.
It takes 5 or more years from date of hire to get 1,000TPIC if you start with 0 121, so your really only 2 years away form the flow buy that point.
No flow program can sustain 5 years from date of hire for long.