Originally Posted by
nicholasblonde
So 3-4 year fence basically equals a seat/certificate lock, right?
I really really really hope to God all the Colgan pilots are locked onto their current equipment/certificate for at least 2 years.
I think the best example of a "down the road" Colgan/9E operation would be RAH, where you're hired into a certificate, but once you're assigned an a/c you're locked on that equipment for 2 years.
But initially, you're going to have some steamed FOs over here at 9E if some Colgan captains come in and steal our upgrades....the hope of which is the only thing we have going for us, with our FO wages.
Honestly, I would fully support it if ALPA used this ruling as a bargaining chip with mgmt...i.e. offer to leave things how they are if mgmt signs a good contract. Use the ruling as leverage, but don't let the lists ever get merged.
Kind of, it works both ways. A Colgan pilot can still move between Colgan’s B1900’s, Saab’s and Q’s as well as all of Colgan’s current bases. What it will prevent is a Colgan pilot taking an RJ slot at a 9E base for 3-4 years and the same for a 9E pilot. The 9E pilot can move between the CR2 & CR9 in MSP, MEM, DTW and ATL but they can not accept and FO or CA’s position on any of Colgan’s current equipment in any of Colgan’s bases.
But once the fences are over it's all for themselves. Whatever you can hold you can have.
As far as RAH's contract restrictions, I've heard nothing but heartache from some of RAH's pilots over it. Getting stuck in a domicile/AC when you could have better QOL on the another AC/certificate, but because you have a blended BS pay rate you're stuck until upgrade. Think about this, you’re working the CHQ cert on the E in DEN when you’re wife gets a job in ATL. Now you’re forced to commute even though your company has an ATL domicile (that your # can hold) on the a/c you currently fly. But you’re stuck on the CHQ cert because of your contract and seeing that your already flying the highest paying a/c in the fleet, you can never switch certs and therefore screwed.
I like that here at SKW we have LOTS of domiciles to choose between and if you want you can move back and forth between a/c & domicile as you wish. There is a 1 year seat lock on a/c but no base lock unless you turn down an award then you're locked for 6 months. As a matter of fact we just had an RJ CA accept an EMB CA slot. Here at SKW all a/c are viewed equally.