Originally Posted by
sanicom3205
Even if you give the company a pass just because his title is chief revenue officer, why did we generate less revenue despite flying more than DAL and UAL prior to the pandemic? I bet the same is true for after the pandemic. What’s the excuse there?
Do you think that Vasu and his team operate in a vacuum? More pilots and more planes means more revenue, so you think they will always argue to grow the company even when it doesn’t make sense to do so? Extremely myopic viewpoints are acceptable just because of what someone’s job title is?
Why did DAL and UAL not furlough, while we did? Almost seems like they were smart enough to see the potential in a recovery to me. You can defend it all until the cows come home, doesn’t change the fact that we took a different course than everyone else and are paying the price for it. Enraging passengers is not good for business, and neither is making the news for cancelling flights due to staffing after begging for government assistance to keep staff on property. How is that something anyone can argue about?
2019 revenue
Delta was 47B
AA was 45B
United was 43B
My take was the Max was down, the mechanics were doing their work slow down, and they were retiring the MD-80s, and Delta has JV revenue that is larger than AA’s.
Delta did furlough, I believe over 1,000 received no award on a displacement notice; their union negotiated 35 hours at 717 FO pay. The cares act bumped them up to full time pay. They were not qualified on any Delta equipment.
Vasu doesn’t operate in a vacuum, CASM includes the relevant cost for him to use. His department doesn’t produce a ROI for furloughs for the various labor groups. If anything the APA is responsible for ensuring that furloughs are costly tilting any ROI spreadsheet in their favor.
IF United didn’t furlough its because their contract, ratio of domestic/international titled the ROI of a furlough in the pilots favor. Has little bearing on Kirby's foresight vs Parker on when this would end.
AA parked 4 fleet types, and claims they knocked 1B in overhead off of 2019 volume.
I don’t have any numbers yet but I believe the June cancels are due to AA scheduling more block hours than Delta or United.
I highly doubt Delta or United could park 4 fleets and only suffer 3% capacity for 30-60 days.
I think both company’s are internally upset they didn’t schedule more blocks hours for June, and have already started “missing out”.