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Old 06-27-2021 | 02:14 PM
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John Carr
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Originally Posted by idlethrust
It’s should be very clear to the Aviate management team that this program needs ALOT of improvement if they want it to be successful.
Who's to say that they DON'T view it as a success when viewed from their perspective?

The pilots will still come...

Originally Posted by idlethrust
As it stands now , people are loosing faith in the process , looking at it as just another recruiting gimmick to keep uax staffed.
That's happened before. All it takes is a "rah-rah" email/speech from one of our recruiters and a clever buzzword like "enhanced" or "streamlined" thrown in to give those pilots just a little bit of hope and keep the hanging on.

The pilots will still come...

Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
If your resume is as impressive as the “joe blow off the street and military guys with zero 121 time,” you probably should give OTS a shot. But if not, I’m not really sure what the issue is. It’s a competitive world out there.
Well, there is/was a TON of those pilots that thought they could get an OTS even before the CPP/AVIATE happened and simply didn't. Can't tell you how many I know that conform/conformed to that. Even more interesting was, a very qualified candidate (LCA, IP, volunteer, what have you) that has a completed/reviewed app was hearing crickets. Gets their CPP and passes/into the pool. Technically, if it's as easy as you presume, they would have been emailed/interviewed OTS before their CPP and been much more senior than when they went via CPP.

The pilots will still come...

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Originally Posted by Delsol
held back at UAX to help UAX staffing while UAL hires over 100 a month. Zero transparency.
It's been that way since the beginning. Zero transparency. Worked then, should continue to work, FOR THEM.

The pilot will still come...

Originally Posted by worstpilotever
I love how guys that don’t even work here are complaining already. Ual gets to decide who and when they bring people on board.
True, despite whatever language in written into the agreement. But mostly, the language that has all the "if's, "ands", "buts", etc that are NOT in the candidates favor.

The pilots will still come...


Not like it needs to be repeated, but.....

......it's a pilot PAY PROBLEM at the regional level, NOT a pilot shortage at the legacy level.

And as I posted in another thread (or maybe here), it won't be long before the pre-COVID bonus structure returns to the regionals.

But as far as the legacies? The pilots will still come...
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