No, it's like the merger proposed between DAL/NWA.<g> Everyone knows they are talking, word is it will come out "next week", but few know what really is being said behind closed doors. We just know the gig is up, they need to move some of those 747 classic folks sooner than later to avoid a repeat of the long vacations some of the 727 crews received. They have airplanes coming..... They dont want to train over peak (theoretically) so it needs to be done within the next 30 days.