Originally Posted by
cruiseclimb
One of my best friends from the Navy walked out of their training just before the checkride (three others walked out with him). He was going to be a quick upgrade to captain right after the IOE (he 20 yrs in the Navy and over 4,500 hrs). He said it was the worst training and the most unprofessional aviation experience he's had. He would of rather sat right seat at a good company then fly as a captain with PNCL. Some of the guys were good, but he said some of the pilots were the bottom of the barrel and he wouldn't want is family flying on the planes with the experience he had with them. Looks like a good opportunity though for quick PIC time.
yeah i don't buy to much of this story since we have everything from fighter pilots to jet u guys here, and everything in between. if he quit it was either he got another job somewhere else or wasn't performing good as a crew member and saw that he was about to get the axe. ask the f-16 guys how hard it is to come into the airlines and have to communicate with someone else and make decisions using other peoples experience in their decision. not saying your friend isn't a good pilot, but do you honestly think he is the only military guy here?? and if this is his first airline to come to he will really be suprised when he sees how different military training is from airline training.
Originally Posted by
nicholasblonde
I on the other hand know several pilots at 9E I would trust with my life with any day--former corporate G5 pilot, military and 135 guys there for upgrade, and a few marines who take their job extremely seriously...
There are bad apples at every operation on Earth. The system is imperfect everywhere. PLUS--your buddy didn't stick around long enough to actually see if those "bad apples" passed the checkride--which most of them probably didn't.
Honestly, I trust 9E a whole lot more than many other regionals b/c of what you just said--many many of our FOs are very high time, and very experienced pilots here for the fast upgrades...I'd trust a guy w/1000TT and 500 SIC turbine over a CFI with 800 hrs 172 time in the right seat...wouldn't you?
Why was your 4500+ Navy guy at a regional in the first place? Why didn't he get on with a major? And was that the reason he walked out of school--he got hired elsewhere?
absolutley. i have flown with some excellent captains that i have learned a lot from. from some gulf stream guys to old b-52 bomber pilots. almost all of them have given me some great advice and taught me things i didn't know.
Originally Posted by
Spooled
Sounds like he had some issues with his training.
Ground school is a joke. However, in the sims its a different story.
Why would he go through all the way through then quit? I don't care if he had 4,500 hours. I've seen people with 6000+ hours struggle in their initial 121 training.
I've seen lots of people wash out, most make excuses exactly like your buddy did.
Pinnacle is a dump. Its a sinking ship. Nobody should have to deal with such a horribly ran company.
New Guys: Don't drink the kool aid they feed you at Noncaring BLVD. You'll turn into an angry person after you've been on line a few months.
hahahaha.. easy man. i have been here a little more than 2.5 years and im not angry.. infact i am not at work enough to be angry! but yeah, things need to change and they need to change quick. i honestly think they will. our negotiating team sounded very optimistic on the conference call last night and i think we will start to see some movement soon.