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Old 08-25-2021 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
With that said, the Republic pilot group has been too far aggressive with Mainline AA. The fact your Union bypassed APA and went directly to AAG management was kinda a low blow. How the whole JS war went down with United to the point an entire website was detonated to blacklisting YX pilots, you can see how some may get the impression UX pilots may be stuck there for a while. And with that said, y’all have at least a decent contract if anything.
Your comments are valid and I agree with most of them. But the above quoted needs some correcting.

The YX jumpseat committee has reached out to the APA for literally years to facilitate this change. The emails went totally ignored. Not just a response that said "we're not interested," but categorically ignored. So ask yourself, which group displayed professionalism in this situation? And ask yourself what you would do in the same situation. Would you just accept it, or would you move on to the next group that could make a decision about this? Mind you, the APA was included in all communications that YX had with AA management.

And then they have the audacity to complain about being circumvented? C'mon, man. It was their actions that led to the consequence of them being circumvented.

Moreover, there continues to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the United situation. They tried to change how we process our jumpseat list. Not how we get priority on their flights, what the priority list would be on OUR aircraft. We pushed back. As any airline should have. No airline gets to dictate another's jumpseat priority. Period. Despite what you have heard about how that situation went, United changed it back to what we had originally.

And despite the bluster at the time, we have heaps of pilots leaving for United right now, so any threats then were likely fragile egos talking.

I am not a fan of non-wholly owned carriers coming on here and bashing us because of a flow agreement
To be very clear, I'm not remotely bashing the flow. It's a useful insurance policy. My criticism is that your company (perhaps not the pilots) has invested so much energy in propaganda touting the flow to the detriment of other contractual improvements that would benefit the pilots.

The people and crews I’ve worked with have been amazing so far and things are moving again, we’re getting 300% OT rates (yes even super junior people have gotten SCC by knowing the system), so we make do here.

Can their be improvements? Absolutely! But this isn’t some dumpster fire. We all want what’s best for for our people and our company, plain and simple. Personally, I think only two people remain in the way from a total positive reform.
I don't doubt this at all. By and large, most airlines are like this. Good people all around. As I said, I sincerely hope you get what you deserve. I have friends at Envoy and don't have any personal animosity toward the airline or your pilot group.


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