Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8

Your comments are valid and I agree with most of them. But the above quoted needs some correcting.

The YX jumpseat committee has reached out to the APA for literally years to facilitate this change. The emails went totally ignored. Not just a response that said "we're not interested," but categorically ignored. So ask yourself, which group displayed professionalism in this situation? And ask yourself what you would do in the same situation. Would you just accept it, or would you move on to the next group that could make a decision about this? Mind you, the APA was included in all communications that YX had with AA management.

And then they have the audacity to complain about being circumvented? C'mon, man. It was their actions that led to the consequence of them being circumvented.

Moreover, there continues to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the United situation. They tried to change how we process our jumpseat list. Not how we get priority on their flights, what the priority list would be on OUR aircraft. We pushed back. As any airline should have. No airline gets to dictate another's jumpseat priority. Period. Despite what you have heard about how that situation went, United changed it back to what we had originally.

And despite the bluster at the time, we have heaps of pilots leaving for United right now, so any threats then were likely fragile egos talking.



To be very clear, I'm not remotely bashing the flow. It's a useful insurance policy. My criticism is that your company (perhaps not the pilots) has invested so much energy in propaganda touting the flow to the detriment of other contractual improvements that would benefit the pilots.



I don't doubt this at all. By and large, most airlines are like this. Good people all around. As I said, I sincerely hope you get what you deserve. I have friends at Envoy and don't have any personal animosity toward the airline or your pilot group.


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