Originally Posted by Crusoe

If management gets what they are demanding - it will actually be (overall) worse than K4 - as they are proposing Kalitta pay but only for the 747 pilots. Which means that other fleet types would pay less (unlike K4 which has a UPS-style one pay rate for all fleet types). Retirement would also be pathetically sub-par with only a 6% match (only a 1% gain over current book) - which I believe is lagging K4 and way behind even the LLCs. We shall see. Stand by to stand by…