Originally Posted by
pitchattitude
Flying in DFW verses ORD are two different animals. Seems like ORD still has some good trips but I haven’t looked closely. Yes, the fleet will die a painful death at some point, and I think that’s still a ways off, but doesn’t really help your situation.
Sometimes all you can do is roll the dice and hope they land in your favor, or just continue to sit on the sidelines with your present life until something else comes along.
Yeah, no I get it, you're exactly right. Eventually you have to sh1t or get off the pot. No matter what I'd really be kinda starting over really at the bottom of a regional seniority list, the only difference being that I'd have tempered expectations of what the life is, knowledge of how management likes to be sneaky and screw pilots over, and just general operational experience I didn't have when I first started a few years ago. All that said, even with all the legitimate faults with companies like Envoy and every regional, it still seems that if someone does commit to any of the three AA wholly owneds, it's as close as you'll ever get to a "guaranteed" spot at a major airline, even if it takes 15 years.
Originally Posted by
havick206
even if you got 175 FO in new hire class, keep in mind forced upgrades (most likely into the 145 as a junior CA) is a real thing when Emvoy can’t fill CA slots due to FO’s holding out.
Yeah I forgot about that happening a few years back. I assume the upgrade bonuses are an attempt to avoid a repeat of that. Do CA's get locked into seats/bases or is that only a new hire FO thing in the contract?