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Old 09-23-2021, 08:22 AM
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FlyGuy2021
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Originally Posted by eligible2flow View Post
7 year flow for a new hire today is absolutely absurd. 10 year minimum.

If you think Envoy will exist in it's current state in 7 years, let alone 10, then you are seriously misguided.

The regionals will be mostly gone in 5 years. Every single captain with a decent background (few training failures, no felonies) will be able to get hired by a major airline in 2022. Every FO will be able to upgrade and be hired at a major by the end of 2023. There are simply not enough pilots coming in to backfill. There should be absolutely zero pilots at Envoy by the end of 2023 that are on the seniority list now (unless they have several training failures, a DWI, and no college degree).

New hires in 2022:

AA: 2000
UA: 2100
DAL: 1800
Southwest: 1200
JetBlue: 800
FedEx: 800
UPS: 250

8000+ just at the "good" majors in a single year. That is more than every single regional captain working today.

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