Originally Posted by FXLAX

From my perspective, it was all around better for fatigue (health) and QOL. But I came from a regional that had pretty good scheduling rules and maybe management that wasn’t always trying to squeeze the last blood drop from a turnip. Supposedly, according to the union scheduling gurus, 117 was going to reduce about a half day (or was it a whole day, I can’t remember anymore) worth of days off in a month on average for the same amount of credit, pre-117. For me, I never saw that. But I never was one to bid on max credit hours and or try to pick up trips (was always a commuter). So that never affected me. I always bid for max days off and min guarantee if needed to get max days off. So maybe it all depends on whether the pilot is a QOL bidder, like I am, or one that is trying to maximize pay most of the time. By the way, the same scheduling gurus never came out and said if they were correct after 117 was implemented.

As for FedEx, on the domestic side at least, it doesn’t seem like much would change since the contract provides much of the operational limits in 117. That’s probably why you don’t see a lot of FedEx guys clamoring for 117 as you do from the ACMI guys. There is a lot of fear of the unknown though from the international guys, I guess because of the theatre and augmented rules?

I’m a big proponent of 117. Overall, I think it’s a benefit. Also. I rather not to be in the same airspace with pilots who may not be getting the benefit of the fatigue rules in 117. Selfishly, I don’t see the competition being able to negotiate these rules into their contracts. So 117 would bring them into more of a fair competition with the cargo airlines that do have robust fatigue mitigation rules in their contract.