Originally Posted by
machz990
So getting the “vaccine” provides immunity against infection and transmission?
It provides excellent immunity against severe disease and death. It also reduces your odds of catching covid and spreading it.
Originally Posted by
machz990
Yellow Fever vaccine has been an approved and proven vaccine for decades. Can you say the same about mRNA vaccines? Yellow Fever vaccine uses an inert form of the virus to stimulate the immune system to produce not only antibodies but long lasting B and T-cells. Not the same process with these new mRNA vaccines which cause your body to produce a specific spike protein.
The mRNA is easy to design, modify, and produce on a very large scale... it's perfect for an unexpected crisis like this. If it wasn't for delta we probably wouldn't be looking at boosters for 1-2 years. A modified booster for delta will be along shortly. The mRNA immunity is probably not as comprehensive as immunity triggered by a virus (natural, live/attenuated, or killed)... but it's good enough if it provides enough protection to get people out from under their beds.
If covid remains endemic (probably) there will be more and better vaccines soon enough.
mRNA vaccines do produce a helper cell response, and they can most likely be modified to do that better if necessary.
https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/ne...vid19-vaccines
Originally Posted by
machz990
When you get a vaccine that falls under an EUA you have to sign a document of informed consent stating you understand there may be unknown risks but you believe the benefits outweigh the risks. If your employer forces you to get this vaccine under a mandate you still have give informed consent regardless of your beliefs. Informed consent relieves everyone of any legal liability for any adverse reaction up to and including death. This is the equivalent of having someone force you to sign a confession with a gun to your head. It is coercion. Until these vaccines are all FDA approved the comparison made that it’s the same as any other required vaccine is a false argument. To head off those who will jump and say Pfizer’s vaccine is FDA approved, until it says “Comirnaty” on the bottle it isn’t the FDA approved vaccine. Read the FDA’s ruling. The FDA also required in the ruling, as a condition of approval, that Myocarditis be added as a warning to the label and product insert.
Pfizer is approved, what it says on the bottle is only semantics. Worst case they print new labels
My starbucks coffee has a cancer warning. Young men and young women should obviously consider the very rare risk of adverse effects and maybe chose their vaccine accordingly.