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Old 10-17-2021, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Buyer Beware View Post
481 with significant targeted net growth needed for A/C deliveries on the way. I believe the plan was roughly ~15-20 a month going forward compared to the actual growth on the last monthly award of 2 pilots due to resignations and new hire no shows.



The current trend will lead to some of the new aircraft being delivered to be used as mobile billboards rather than traditionally used aircraft. The exit wave hasn’t peaked yet, it’s just beginning. The company proposal is too little too late, morale is gone and apps are out. A skinny deal with industry lacking sections won’t make sunny a career airline, which ultimately won’t lead people to passing on their interviews / class dates at career airlines. Everyone still onboard is in a tough spot because unless the deal is good enough to actually attract people (realistically better than industry standard, not industry standard) it’s just kicking the can down the road. It’s not like there’s an end to the hiring waves at career airlines on the horizon. With the pace of the actual negotiations that have occurred it’s pretty apparent that doing a full deal will take a significant amount of time and during that time net growth will be near zero to negative. When you weigh the options for most of the list staying at sunny is a poor choice. How would they possibly attract and retain enough pilots to even meet their growth target over the next 16 months? An allegiant/spirit/frontier contract probably won’t do that with the hiring going on at legacies.
Thanks for that info. Maybe the exit of pilots due to the mandate will force SY to accelerate contract negotiations (or maybe it will be the opposite effect).

Also, why aren't F/Os upgrading to Captain?

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