Figure the average career at mainline is 30 years. If you want to guarantee a five year flow time, your mainline pilot group has to be six times bigger than your regional group. The numbers just don’t work.

Hiring is crazy right now because retirements are crazy. That is going to end in five or eight years and the music will stop and people will be waiting for 10 or 15 years for a mainline job again.

If they were going to do any sort of guarantees like that it should’ve been five years ago, not now.