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Old 11-17-2021, 10:41 PM
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Cool LOL, Speak for yourself UTR…

Originally Posted by UTR69 View Post
You mean other than, "fog this mirror"..........nope, probably not much change....

LOL UTR..

Just because you were able to get hired here by fogging a mirror supposedly, doesn’t mean that applies now.. Oh, and I am sure that our pilots here who are Annapolis grads, Air Force Academy grads, and former AA, SWA, UAL, DL, F9, Spirit, Pensacola, Cherry Point, Ft. Rucker, Columbus AFB, etc. pilots who work here deeply appreciate the respect that you continually show for your former fellow crew members.

We actually have a detailed screening process that I am a part of, and unfortunately, no we can’t and don’t hire everyone that wants to work here. Being one of the only aviation companies on this PLANET that actually grew and hired all employees (not just pilots) during the worst of the COVID-19 Pandemic, we had thousands of applications to sort through. We were able to help many, including friends on LOA’s from UAL and SWA during this time as well as a large group of XJT, TSA, Compass and other pilots out of work from COVID-19 or shutdowns; Most of these pilots who “fogged a mirror” are still here including esteemed veterans, ISR Pilots, and Legacy Retirees. Again, UTR, we really appreciate your continued respect and support. Don’t all you brother and sister pilots out there on APC wish that you had a UTR of your own to support his fellow crew members. LOL?

So, no, we don’t put you in a rocking chair, give you the Hogan Test, ask you your greatest strengths/weaknesses, if you were a color/animal, which one you would be HR type questions, etc., but we spend 3-4 hours per candidate with multiple Recruiter pilots, talking with them to get a feel of how well they would fit in and enjoy working here. We expect that you can fly an airplane, treat your passengers like family, treat your fellow crew members/CSR’s/Line Service Personnel/Front Desk Clerks/Gate Agents/Flight Attendants/Uber Drivers with kindness and respect. We also don’t diss our competitors when talking with a Candidate about us vs. NJA, Flex, XOJET/Vista, Wheels Up, JetLinx, etc. because we provide lift for all of them and they are our partners as well. And we always remind people that we are not the only ones hiring now and that they should consider part 121 or go for the best deal that they can. We are not used car salespeople and we don’t lie to our Candidates. I am also a Realtor, albeit a “bad” one because I ALWAYS ask my clients if they are absolutely sure that this is what they want to do before I let them sign the Offer to Purchase document. I am the same way with my Candidates because I have a conscience and they are going to be my “neighbors”. We also do on site interviews at RTAG, NBAA, etc, so you see that “fogging a mirror” won’t get you hired on here.

We on the Recruiting Team here consider our most sacred duty to be “Tool Prevention’, i.e., getting and keeping the good people, and keeping the ‘tools” out. We have been pretty successful with that endeavor as of late, but we are not perfect. Almost perfect though….

Finally, I would like to congratulate UTR on his 23 post on Airline Pilot Central Forums, yet another negative one about us nearly 3 years later..! UTR, while we should be flattered with your obsession with us, I just feel that your tireless obsession is not healthy for you and that you should try to move on. Maybe even try posting on another subject (God forbid!) or telling us about the Unicorn, rainbows, and sprinkles job that you have now that is soooooo much better than the one you had here (even though we are a completely different and better than the good one we were when you left). But with these many posts, even bad ones, years after you left…. Well, it shows that you still care. We are flattered.

I will leave my other fellow pilots here on APC Forums who are interested in working at this, or any other Company, with this post from the Senior moderator here regarding career advice on these Forums.. Listen to both sides and take it for what it is worth..

If you're considering using APC advice for career planning, take a look at the poster's previous post history... if they have some history and sound like a real, rational person who discusses a variety of topics then I'd weight their advice.

If they're a broken record, or have a very short, focused history, then beware.”

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